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Post by cherry68 on Mar 16, 2019 16:45:51 GMT
I prefer the original version (video aside) by Raf
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 16:49:04 GMT
An underrated Canadian gem. Based on a true crime.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 16:53:12 GMT
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 16, 2019 18:15:38 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 17, 2019 10:45:08 GMT
Nine Inch Nails, Pixies, Nirvana, Jane's Addiction were all bands getting big(ger) in '89 - all acts who just prior would have been far more limited commercially. So, of course you need a band who went the other way - that band, the very best American band in their era (imo) would have found that commercial potential simultaneously funny, weird and repellent. So slacker-ish they couldn't be bothered with recording technique at all - this buzzy lo-fi quality became their trademark - and couldn't even bother getting an album out for 2-3 years. In this song from '89, that feeling of ambivalence.....well it's in their song titles too (maybe).
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Post by Mattsby on Mar 17, 2019 18:02:14 GMT
Not mentioned yet!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 18, 2019 23:42:31 GMT
Following up on Squeeze, their rivals/counterparts - XTC with one of their pop gems.........
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 18, 2019 23:45:12 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 19, 2019 21:36:40 GMT
The 80s were the era where most hard rock took a side and became either (mostly) metal or something else but there were less typical hard rock bands (the term actually kind of vanished for a time). But Thin Lizzy was basically the same they'd always been with yet another hotshot guitarist in this lineup (John Sykes who plays all over this song during verses, chorus, bridge......... all over it).
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 20, 2019 5:11:05 GMT
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Post by DeepArcher on Mar 20, 2019 5:22:56 GMT
Concerned that no one has yet mentioned “Ceremony” by Joy Division/New Order ... maybe my favorite song of all-time.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 20, 2019 8:22:07 GMT
the rough cut, one per artist
01. "Walking on Sunshine" by Katrina & the Waves 02. "Gloria" by Laura Branigan 03. "Faith" by George Michael 04. "Once in a Lifetime" by Talking Heads 05. "The Winner Takes It All" by Abba 06. "All Through the Night" by Cyndi Lauper 07. "Smooth Criminal" by Michael Jackson 08. "I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me)" by Whitney Houston 09. "Don't Stop Believin" by Journey 10. "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler 11. "Material Girl" by Madonna 12. "Express Yourself" by N.W.A. 13. "99 Red Balloons" by Nena 14. "Under Pressure" by Queen and David Bowie 15. "Here Comes Your Man" by Pixies 16. "Janie's Got a Gun" by Aerosmith 17. "The Rose" by Bette Midler 18. "Sweet Child O' Mine" by Guns N' Roses 19. "Invisible Touch" by Genesis 20. "I Think We're Alone Now" by Tiffany 21. "The Tide Is High" by Blondie 22. "Take On Me" by a-ha 23. "Orinoco Flow" by Enya 24. "Love My Way" by The Psychedelic Furs 25. "Running up that Hill" by Kate Bush
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 20, 2019 10:44:38 GMT
Following up on the #1 on Tommen_Saperstein 's list. The guitarist from Katrina and the Waves - Kimberly Rew - was something of a New Wave legend - sometime co-writer and guitarist with the mighty Robyn Hitchcock in The Soft Boys. Making far more money with "Walking On Sunshine" than the talented Hitchcock ever came close to, he's a weird detour - a followup "Pop" success story after being an obscure "Punk". The Soft Boys are thought of as a one hit wonder now but they were much more than that and their greatish second album (Underwater Moonlight), where this "hit" is from would make a lot of peoples top 25 of the decade.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 20, 2019 23:54:55 GMT
Always a good double shot withe Soft Boys - The Three O'Clock took much of their psychedelic schtick from Hitchcock's lyrics - and so did their whole movement "The Paisley Underground" early 80s sound.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 21, 2019 13:39:42 GMT
A hilariously cheesy video for a crucial song - a synth-pop classic with vocals in English and French and swooping, pounding Synth line - that removes you largely from the song - you are not drawn into this music but rather are an observer, detached, outside looking in. Not only are you not understanding it, you like not understanding or comprehending it.......it's anti-Pop in a way.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 21, 2019 21:11:40 GMT
For everyone who loves early REM before they lost the plot don't forget they were great even before Murmur - one of their greatest songs from Chronic Town and for Murmur they'd do this same song (sort of) on "West of the Fields" ....... more ominously to match this songs title ("the animals are strange" on West Of The Fields).
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 23, 2019 10:24:51 GMT
For artists of a previous decade, it's always hard to place them in the context of the next one.....such is the case with the baffling, perplexing and um overrated but at times brilliant David Bowie. He was the artist of the 70s .......even though he also wasn't simultaneously .....a guy who never really sustains it over a full album to me (ever), yet he was still capable of creating individual songs which could go as deep as any album could. This track, was one of his very best (and best vocals too) and a sad, eerie almost Bergmanesque video. One of 1980s most fascinating singles in a lot of ways.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 24, 2019 17:16:36 GMT
The same year Bowie's idea found Robert Palmer too - a lesser artist but with the same concept and organically his own work - it's not a rip-off, it's rather part of the same zeigeist - he challenged himself and here similarly used pop song conventions/post-modern instruments and sounds to create a very similar "type" of song - and his best song actually.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 25, 2019 22:16:19 GMT
A contender for best album (Tim) of the decade and here's the scary part - they were so great for the songs they didn't put out at all - even here. Great song, as American as any they ever did and hey which album is it from, well it was recorded for this one, but see they got distracted and ........oh look ...........there's beer.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 26, 2019 0:06:47 GMT
Holly Vincent, a uniquely sexy Debbie Harry in waiting concocted her very own Rip Her To Shreds with this song in 1980 - insanely catchy, very bubblegum meets the Ramones, and borderline sociopathic , what's not to love, swoon........ Recommended for @waterloobridge and Tommen_Saperstein who each had a lot of stuff that sort of circled this kind of pop in their picks in a way.......and Mattsby who I know is a big fan of The Primitives great 80s song "Crash" which has many of the same qualities.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 26, 2019 0:46:58 GMT
I loved that, pacinoyes! I wonder if Florence Welch was thinking of that song when she wrote "Kiss with a Fist"
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 26, 2019 20:39:52 GMT
Another synth-pop hit and very 80s, by a band written off the same way Robert Palmer would be except moreso - Palmer could write and really sing - but this song takes all the elements of sadness, and longing implicit in the New Romantics and crafts a kind of classic. If it was New Order or Bowie it'd be called a classic, and it deserves to be in its own right too.
Pop music as art music....
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Mar 26, 2019 22:29:54 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 27, 2019 10:50:56 GMT
Mystery in rock and roll goes a long way – and almost nobody has ever had it. REM had it at first…...Pavement cultivated it in the early 90s but no important band – and this is an all-time important American band - had it like Mission of Burma. “Secrets” - the lead off track on their (one of a kind, years best) 1982 album starts wildly, then gets more frantic, doesn’t have any singing at all for 2+ minutes then goes into quick, unsettling call and response vocals. When it ends, it does it sadly, abruptly and unresolved: “Underneath the gaze………..underneath the guise……..underneath it ………goes …………..away” Cc: countjohn and Viced who had the band on their lists.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 28, 2019 12:06:34 GMT
When speaking of important bands of the 80s in many ways - apart from music especially - THE most important was Black Flag.
Stars on the West Coast, and inventors of how to tour with no money - they booked, drove to, scheduled their own shows nationally and every venue they played became a touchstone formula for other bands too - in a very real sense they developed this kind of Rock music/sensibility/culture. Husker Du aspired to be them (before surpassing them artistically), punks wore their T-shirts like a uniform, even California metal heads loved them. They made their own records on the crucial SST label that distributed all their peers too but they also had a distribution affiliation with a major label (notoriously, disastrously, which bought them a ton of free publicity/street credibility).
They also had once in a while, at least a fairly funny sense of humor.
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