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Post by Pavan on Feb 14, 2019 7:58:03 GMT
That's an interesting premise and the trailer looks fun in an odd sort of way plus my love Lily James
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 14, 2019 19:24:06 GMT
So, the implied analogy is that today’s people are so oblivious to the “great art of yore” that someone could get away with selling the music of the fucking Beatles as his own? Yikes. This looks baaaad. Huh?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 14, 2019 19:27:01 GMT
seems like a pretty fun, whimsical premise baked in nostalgia to me. I think some posters might be reading too much into it and looking for things that aren't necessarily there. Not sure why it can't just be a fun comedy.
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 14, 2019 21:34:47 GMT
Yikes, how dare I find extra meaning in a film being released by a major studio! How silly of me, I forgot that only independent auteur cinema could be analyzed. I really hope everyone enjoys this mindless fun that has no additional meaning to it whatsoever beyond what appears on the surface level!!
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 14, 2019 21:49:57 GMT
Yikes, how dare I find extra meaning in a film being released by a major studio! How silly of me, I forgot that only independent auteur cinema could be analyzed. I really hope everyone enjoys this mindless fun that has no additional meaning to it whatsoever beyond what appears on the surface level!! What made me scratch my head is that you're applying meaning to a trailer, and that to get that meaning from it you'll reeeeally have to stretch.
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 14, 2019 22:04:07 GMT
What made me scratch my head is that you're applying meaning to a trailer, and that to get that meaning from it you'll reeeeally have to stretch. To be fair, I'm not going to dismiss the movie entirely yet and assume that that is the intent of the film. But as soon as the first bit in the trailer starts and he's playing the title song, and the friends have never heard of the Beatles and Paul McCartney, my mind immediately went to, "oh, this is gonna just be a criticism of young people who are clueless about older music." Maybe it stems from being around classic rock purists who'll make his confused friends listen to "Stairway to Heaven" and then be offended if one dares insinuate that someone like Kendrick Lamar could be on the same artistic stratosphere as sacred Jimmy Page and gang. But I find that mentality far too prevalent among certain crowds and this just seems to be buying into the misconception that younger people inherently have no appreciation for older music, or even awareness of its existence. That implication just seemed incredibly obvious to me throughout the trailer, but if I'm literally the only one seeing it, then maybe I'm delusional. The more I've thought about it the more I realize I have plenty of other problems with this (again, from what I can gather from the trailer, I shouldn't make assumptions about the film yet), but, uh, because everyone seems eager to defend the blessed screenwriter of Love Actually, I'm getting the sense that I should withhold my other comments, and maybe shut my mouth until the film is released.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 14, 2019 22:09:44 GMT
What made me scratch my head is that you're applying meaning to a trailer, and that to get that meaning from it you'll reeeeally have to stretch. To be fair, I'm not going to dismiss the movie entirely yet and assume that that is the intent of the film. But as soon as the first bit in the trailer starts and he's playing the title song, and the friends have never heard of the Beatles and Paul McCartney, my mind immediately went to, "oh, this is gonna just be a criticism of young people who are clueless about older music." Maybe it stems from being around classic rock purists who'll make his confused friends listen to "Stairway to Heaven" and then be offended if one dares insinuate that someone like Kendrick Lamar could be on the same artistic stratosphere as sacred Jimmy Page and gang. But I find that mentality far too prevalent among certain crowds and this just seems to be buying into the misconception that younger people inherently have no appreciation for older music, or even awareness of its existence. That implication just seemed incredibly obvious to me throughout the trailer, but if I'm literally the only one seeing it, then maybe I'm delusional. The more I've thought about it the more I realize I have plenty of other problems with this (again, from what I can gather from the trailer, I shouldn't make assumptions about the film yet), but, uh, because everyone seems eager to defend the blessed screenwriter of Love Actually, I'm getting the sense that I should withhold my other comments, and maybe shut my mouth until the film is released. That's fair. As I said, it just seems to me to be a simple wish-fulfillment story, with the idea of "wouldn't it be cool if I wrote the Beatles songs/Lord of the Rings/Plan 9 from Outer Space without having to put in the work or life experience for it, and everyone thought I was awesome?" I really don't see anything more than that. I get where you're coming from, but that's a cynical way of looking at an advertisement. We all make assumptions based on trailers, though, so I won't write off what you're saying.
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 14, 2019 22:20:44 GMT
that's a cynical way of looking at an advertisement. Yeeeeaaahh, I guess that can sometimes be a habit of mine ...
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 14, 2019 22:23:53 GMT
I think we can all agree that BH will be the far superior of the two musically charged films.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 14, 2019 22:25:21 GMT
What made me scratch my head is that you're applying meaning to a trailer, and that to get that meaning from it you'll reeeeally have to stretch. To be fair, I'm not going to dismiss the movie entirely yet and assume that that is the intent of the film. But as soon as the first bit in the trailer starts and he's playing the title song, and the friends have never heard of the Beatles and Paul McCartney, my mind immediately went to, "oh, this is gonna just be a criticism of young people who are clueless about older music." Maybe it stems from being around classic rock purists who'll make his confused friends listen to "Stairway to Heaven" and then be offended if one dares insinuate that someone like Kendrick Lamar could be on the same artistic stratosphere as sacred Jimmy Page and gang. But I find that mentality far too prevalent among certain crowds and this just seems to be buying into the misconception that younger people inherently have no appreciation for older music, or even awareness of its existence. That implication just seemed incredibly obvious to me throughout the trailer, but if I'm literally the only one seeing it, then maybe I'm delusional. The more I've thought about it the more I realize I have plenty of other problems with this (again, from what I can gather from the trailer, I shouldn't make assumptions about the film yet), but, uh, because everyone seems eager to defend the blessed screenwriter of Love Actually, I'm getting the sense that I should withhold my other comments, and maybe shut my mouth until the film is released. I only expressed confusion because it seemed like you were taking away from the trailer that it was straight-faced about young people not knowing old music, rather than a premise about an alternate reality where The Beatles don't exist at all. The trailer didn't demonstrate a snobby anti-youth agenda to me at least (even middle-aged people don't know "Let It Be") and I don't think the choice of The Beatles for this premise went any deeper than a) they're super popular worldwide, b) they're British and it is Richard Curtis we're talking here, and c) they provide the perfect soundtrack for a sugary rom-com. EDIT: Also, if anybody gives you shit for liking Kendrick as much or more than Led Zeppelin, just say at least Kendrick doesn't steal his work or try to fuck 14-year-old girls.
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 14, 2019 22:32:27 GMT
I only expressed confusion because it seemed like you were taking away from the trailer that it was straight-faced about young people not knowing old music, rather than a premise about an alternate reality where The Beatles don't exist at all. The trailer didn't demonstrate a snobby anti-youth agenda to me at least (even middle-aged people don't know "Let It Be") and I don't think the choice of The Beatles for this premise went any deeper than a) they're super popular worldwide, b) they're British and it is Richard Curtis we're talking here, and c) they provide the perfect soundtrack for a sugary rom-com. EDIT: Also, if anybody gives you shit for liking Kendrick as much or more than Led Zeppelin, just say at least Kendrick doesn't steal his work or try to fuck 14-year-old girls. Oh, no, I don't think that interpretation is straight-faced at all. The argument you raise is a good one, that it's not just young people who don't know the Beatles in this scenario, it's everyone ... but we're in an age where culture has become so youth-dominated, and the film itself seems aware of that and largely millennial-centric itself, that I don't think that necessarily invalidates reading the film with the impression I got. But, yeah, if no one is seeing the film the way that I am, more power to you. I just felt like this trailer was talking down to me.
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 14, 2019 22:40:07 GMT
I think we can all agree that BH will be the far superior of the two musically charged films. Rate your excitement for Rocketman out of 10.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 14, 2019 22:53:26 GMT
I think we can all agree that BH will be the far superior of the two musically charged films. Rate your excitement for Rocketman out of 10. 1. Give me Freddie or give me nothing!
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Feb 14, 2019 22:55:20 GMT
I think we can all agree that BH will be the far superior of the two musically charged films. Rate your excitement for Rocketman out of 10. On a scale of a Warthog’s backside to sheets of linen, I give it an empty bottle of gin.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Feb 15, 2019 3:52:41 GMT
Looks like a lot of fun actually. I'm in.
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Post by CookiesNCream on Feb 15, 2019 9:51:21 GMT
This looks really good.
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Post by morton on Feb 15, 2019 11:16:29 GMT
So, the implied analogy is that today’s people are so oblivious to the “great art of yore” that someone could get away with selling the music of the fucking Beatles as his own? Yikes. This looks baaaad. Looks to me like it's more of a refutation of wish-fulfillment "If I was famous, my life would be better" thinking. Which is hardly original, but you look to be reading too much into the trailer. It looks like dumb fun. I guess the debate is settled now. But I saw the trailer again tonight with Isn't It Romantic, and both look very similar just going by the trailer for Yesterday. -Both lead characters get into an accident that leads to a parallel universe where everything has changed for the better for them. -Both lead characters find love in the parallel universe with someone close to them in the real universe. -Both lead characters learn some kind of lesson before they can go back to their old selves. -Catchy musical number(s). -I don't know about Yesterday, but I think that bob-coppola is right in that the lead character will wake up in the hospital where it will all have been a dream which is what happens in Isn't It Romantic.
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