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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 8, 2019 20:58:10 GMT
Coming soon
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Feb 8, 2019 21:01:48 GMT
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 8, 2019 21:05:38 GMT
Can’t wait for that BH technical sweep!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 8, 2019 22:40:01 GMT
so I'm going to announce the nominees on Sunday the 10th and just wanted to get the housekeeping stuff out of the way with some thoughts and with a list of films I haven't seen yet that might have affected my lineups. This way, I can get the long rambling out of the way today and just jump right into the nominations on Sunday. If I was less lazy and illiterate, I'd do a top 25 in the vein of my obsession David Ehrlich but this is what I have for now. Full disclosure, I fucking loved 2018. And I didn't realize how much I loved 2018 until January of this year, where I strapped in and watched 2018 films for pretty much the whole month, even getting through some films that have been out for awhile ( Sorry to Bother You, Buster Scruggs) that I just hadn't gotten to yet. I must have watched something like 40 2018 films last month and now 2018 is my most viewed year ever, currently sitting at a grand total of 83 films (I know that's chicken feed to some of the board's more obsessive obsessives but it's a new high for me and I'm pretty picky ). Seriously January basically built my top 10 from scratch. Last year was such a great month that I'm ready to call it quits and just get these awards out of the way. Partially because I wanted to do these the same time as last year but also because I'm really happy with what I have right now. Too happy in fact, because some categories are ridiculously stacked (this is one of the best years for Best Actress I've ever seen) and some great stuff will get left out. That part is going to hurt, but I am really happy with the variety this year. Just from the acting categories alone I think something like 20 films are going to be represented. On the flipside the year is so competitive that films I really liked might only get one or two nominations. I'm going to do 6 nominees for acting / screenplays / ensemble and 5 for the rest. Arbitrary I know, but I like to keep Picture and Director competitive while still being able to put on blast excellent performances and screenplays. As always, there are some films I haven't gotten to yet. Mostly foreign films but even some mainstream stuff that I think a lot of folks have already seen. I'm sure some of these would have affected my lineups but it is what it is. Here'a a full-disclosure list of films in my watchlist that I think had the best chance to make a splash: Foreign films: Birds of Passage (this looks ridiculously good) Capernaum Climax Custody Girl The Guilty Never Look Away (Deschanel you sneaky bastard!) Shoplifters (definitely the most anticipated 2018 film still in my watchlist) P.S. What I have seen in this category has mostly disappointed me, so I'll probably only have 4 nominees but hey that's 4 more than last year! And I will get to represent a couple of wonderful lesser-seen films (thanks again, Netflix) while snubbing a couple that a lot of people love More mainstream stuff: Mary Poppins Returns (costumes, production design) Mary Queen of Scots (supporting actress, costumes, makeup) Overlord (I don't know, maybe makeup?) Solo: A Star Wars Story (for VFX...I could watch on Netflix now but....eh) Vox LuxDocs: Free Solo On Her Shoulders RBG Seeing Allred Science FairP.S. It is worth noting that even having not seen these documentary films I DID in fact see several wonderful documentaries in 2018. And because I didn't have anything for this category last year, this time around I'm not going to limit myself to 5 nominees and just put on blast the ones I really liked. I think it's going to be 6 or 7. alright blah blah blah. Too many words. These nominations are a year coming and I can't wait to announce them! Expect lots of twists and surprises
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 8, 2019 23:03:28 GMT
Glad to see someone else actually loved this year. I’ve been perplexed by how many people have denounced it on here. Nightmarish awards season, yes, and maybe not the greatest year ever but there’s an insane amount of great stuff we got this year. It’s gonna be insanely hard to narrow down my own line-ups because of it.
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Post by stephen on Feb 8, 2019 23:06:58 GMT
Glad to see someone else actually loved this year. I’ve been perplexed by how many people have denounced it on here. Nightmarish awards season, yes, and maybe not the greatest year ever but there’s an insane amount of great stuff we got this year. It’s gonna be insanely hard to narrow down my own line-ups because of it. It's a brilliant year if you ignore most of what the Academy has recognized. I vastly prefer it to 2016 and '17.
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 9, 2019 5:10:27 GMT
Can’t wait for that BH technical sweep! I must have missed something, why are people denoting Bohemian Rhapsody as 'BH'?
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 9, 2019 7:30:28 GMT
Can’t wait for that BH technical sweep! I must have missed something, why are people denoting Bohemian Rhapsody as 'BH'? Not sure, Fish started it and it's just caught on as a way to denote the film when discussing it ironically. I honestly assume it started with a typo, but I'm not sure.
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Post by themoviesinner on Feb 9, 2019 8:47:02 GMT
I also think 2018 was a great year for film. Even though most of the acclaimed stuff has been pretty disappointing, there was a huge number of hidden gems that greatly surpassed my expectations. It was much better than the last couple of years for sure.
If you want to watch more non-English language films from 2018, there are several I could recommend that haven't been discussed very much on these forums.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 11, 2019 4:59:03 GMT
as promised, the nominees: BEST MOTION PICTURE OF THE YEAR The Ballad of Buster Scruggs Burning The Favourite The Rider Support the GirlsBEST DIRECTORJoel & Ethan Coen, The Ballad of Buster ScrubbsBarry Jenkins, If Beale Street Could TalkYorgos Lanthimos, The FavouriteChang-dong Lee, BurningPaul Schrader, First ReformedBEST ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLEOlivia Colman, The FavouriteRegina Hall, Support the GirlsMelissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, Leave No TraceCarey Mulligan, WildlifeRachel Weisz, The FavouriteBEST ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLEMahershala Ali, Green BookAlessandro Borghi, On My SkinWillem Dafoe, At Eternity's GateDaveed Diggs, BlindspottingEthan Hawke, First ReformedBrady Jandreau, The RiderBEST ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLEElizabeth Debicki, WidowsZoe Kazan, The Ballad of Buster ScruggsRegina King, If Beale Street Could TalkBlake Lively, A Simple PlanHaley Lu Richardson, Support the GirlsTilda Swinton, SuspiriaBEST ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLERichard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?Jonah Hill, Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on FootTim Blake Nelson, The Ballad of Buster ScruggsAlessandro Nivola, DisobedienceJesse Plemmons, Game NightSteven Yeun, BurningBEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY Cold War - Paweł Pawlikowski, Janusz Głowacki and Piotr Borkowski The Favourite - Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara First Reformed - Paul Schrader Sorry to Bother You - Boots Riley Support the Girls - Andrew Bujalski Thoroughbreds - Cory Finley BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY The Ballad of Buster Scruggs - Joel & Ethan Coen Burning - Jung-mi Oh and Chang-dong Lee Can You Ever Forgive Me? - Nicole Holofcener and Jeff Whitty Disobedience - Sebastián Lelio and Rebecca Lenkiewicz If Beale Street Could Talk - Barry Jenkins Leave No Trace - Debra Granik and Anne Rosellini BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ENSEMBLE CAST The Ballad of Buster ScruggsCrazy Rich AsiansThe FavouriteGame NightIf Beale Street Could TalkSupport the Girlsa short break! the techs and the rest! BEST CINEMATOGRAPHYThe Ballad of Buster Scruggs - Bruno Delbonnel Cold War - Łukasz Żal The Rider - Joshua James Richards Roma - Alfonso Cuarón Suspiria - Sayombhu Mukdeeprom BEST ORIGINAL SCOREAt Eternity's Gate - Tatiana Lisovskaya First Man - Justin Hurwitz Hereditary - Colin Stetson If Beale Street Could Talke - Nicholas Britell Suspiria - Thom Yorke BEST CHOREOGRAPHYMission Impossible: FalloutRomaShadowSuspiriaUpgradeBEST FILM EDITINGBlacKkKlansmanThe FavouriteFirst ManIf Beale Street Could TalkSuspiriaBEST PRODUCTION DESIGNThe Ballad of Buster ScruggsBohemian RhapsodyThe FavouriteRomaSuspiriaBEST COSTUME DESIGNThe Ballad of Buster ScruggsBlack PantherColetteThe FavouriteSuspiriaBEST MAKEUP & HAIRSTYLINGThe Ballad of Buster ScruggsThe FavouriteOn My SkinSuspiriaViceBEST SOUND DESIGNThe Ballad of Buster ScruggsFirst ManIncredibles 2A Quiet PlaceRomaBEST SOUND MIXINGBohemian RhapsodyA Quiet PlaceRomaA Star Is BornSuspiriaBEST VISUAL EFFECTSAnnihilationAvengers: Infinity WarFirst ManMission Impossible: FalloutA Quiet PlaceBEST ORIGINAL SONG"Girl in the Movies" - Dumplin'"I'll Never Love Again" - A Star Is Born"Keep Reachin'" - Quincy"We Won't Move" - The Hate U Give"When a Cowboy Trades His Spurs for Wings" - The Ballad of Buster ScruggsBEST DOCUMENTARY FILMCrime + PunishmentJane Fonda in Five ActsMcQueenMinding the GapShirkersThree Identical StrangersWhitneyBEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILMAnd Breathe NormallyBurningCold WarOn My SkinRoma____________________________________________________ statistics- Buster Scruggs leads the pack with 12 nominations. The Favourite and Suspiria follow suit with 10 and 9 respectively. - I had seen 59 films when I did these for 2017. This year I was working with 83. - A total of 51 films are recognized (if I counted right). That's 19 up from last year's 32, although I didn't have FLF or documentary last year and only nominated five screenplays each. - Of my 10 least favorite films of the year, 2 received nominations tonight - The Rider is the least-nominated film in the Best Picture category with only 3 nods (narrowly missing director and screenplay). Burning and Support the Girls have 5 each - Of the 5 films nominated for FLF, 4 of them received nominations elsewhere - The Tommen Awards continue to be a questionable predictor for the rest of the awards race. It is NOT a precursor. winners will be announced next week on Sunday the 17th!
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 11, 2019 5:14:33 GMT
Nivola! Too bad Yelchin missed out (I seem to be the only one who loved his turn in Thoroughbreds), but Nivola is here, so I forgive you for Riley (edit: and Schrader? gtfo) getting a nod. I hope that Thoroughbreds gets mentioned in score. Edit: No Eighth Grade love? Disappointing. Edit 2: No Toni Collette? Surprising.
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 11, 2019 5:26:32 GMT
Reeeally good stuff, mostly. I wasn't big on Burning, but that's my only real complaint. I especially love these: Support the Girls love, Mulligan, Nivola, Plemons, Buster Scruggs across major categories, and Crazy Rich Asians in Ensemble.
Edit for tech stuff: More divergence with these (you know), but still a lot to like. My favorites here are the nods for The Rider's cinematography and Hereditary's score -- not sure that these make my own line-ups unfortunately, but they are inspired choices and very deserving.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 11, 2019 5:51:44 GMT
Nivola! I would have loved to nominate Weisz too but Lead Actress was too damn competitive. I don't think she's even in my top 10 but she'd be my winner most other years. I really liked Disobedience
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 11, 2019 5:52:00 GMT
I just misread that one documentary as Minding the Fap...
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 11, 2019 6:00:22 GMT
I especially love these: Support the Girls love, Mulligan, Nivola, Plemons, Buster Scruggs across major categories, and Crazy Rich Asians in Ensemble. this was my surprise sleeper hit of the year. Had me grinning like an idiot from ear to ear. A glorious and cathartic ode to feminine strength and camaraderie. I instantly fell in love with all the characters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 6:08:14 GMT
Just saw Support the Girls, good stuff. Haley Lu Richardson is crazy likable. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs should sweep tbh. I can't stop thinking about it, especially that first segment. Is "I'll see y'all there, and we can sing together and shake our heads over all the meanness in the used-to-be..." the best line of dialogue in a Coen Brothers film yet?
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 11, 2019 6:12:27 GMT
I especially love these: Support the Girls love, Mulligan, Nivola, Plemons, Buster Scruggs across major categories, and Crazy Rich Asians in Ensemble. this was my surprise sleeper hit of the year. Had me grinning like an idiot from ear to ear. A glorious and cathartic ode to feminine strength and camaraderie. I instantly fell in love with all the characters. Yeah, I really liked it as well. Can't think of another film that better encapsulates the essence of contemporary American culture in a more vivid way without being over-the-top about it, and as you say, the central characters are all instantly likable. Unfortunately for me it's gotten a bit buried by a year of quality cinema, but I'm hoping I might find some room to recognize it in my line-ups.
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Post by Sharbs on Feb 11, 2019 18:00:28 GMT
Major categories went 7/8 last year where the AMARA Winner was nominated for a Tommen. So we can look at BP, Director, Actor, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, and the two screenplays and determine what we think will win the AMARA because you know they make it a 100% clip. very valuable stat/precursor
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 11, 2019 18:04:03 GMT
I sincerely hope you classify Death of Stalin as a 2017 release, then...
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 12, 2019 21:00:26 GMT
I sincerely hope you classify Death of Stalin as a 2017 release, then... I do and sadly I hadn't seen it when I did these last year.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 12, 2019 21:03:16 GMT
btw you nom roma for choreography but snub Buster Scruggs? That Karate shit in roma is better than great Shootout stuffs in buster? Choreography is multi-faceted. Fight scenes / dancing / stunts are obvious examples of it but I also consider the logistics of organizing a given shot, and many of the long takes in Roma are complex and I imagine were very difficult to organize. I wasn't thinking of the karate, more the fire at the hacienda and the riot/department store murder. Not to mention all the street pans. i need to check out on my skin. You do! It's on Netflix and there are probably versions online. Alessandro Borghi's performance is brilliant. Very tough subject matter.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 12, 2019 21:10:35 GMT
I sincerely hope you classify Death of Stalin as a 2017 release, then... I do and sadly I hadn't seen it when I did these last year.
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Post by JangoB on Feb 15, 2019 11:52:05 GMT
These are so good. All this love for Suspiria, Buster Scruggs, The Favourite and The Rider makes me especially happy.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 18, 2019 0:04:51 GMT
there's been more than enough fanfare so let's just get into it, shall we? BEST DOCUMENTARYCrime + Punishment Jane Fonda in Five Acts McQueen Minding the Gap Shirkers Three Identical Strangers WhitneyAND THE WINNER ISSHIRKERS - Sandi Tan
BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILMAnd Breathe Normally Burning Cold War On My Skin RomaAND THE WINNER ISBURNING - Chang-dong Lee
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 18, 2019 0:24:46 GMT
ACHIEVEMENT IN CHOREOGRAPHYMission Impossible: Fallout Roma Shadow Suspiria UpgradeAND THE WINNER ISMISSION IMPOSSIBLE: FALLOUT - Ray Armstrong, Wade Eastwood, Suzie Frize-Williams, Allan Hewitt and Wolfgang Stegemann ACHIEVEMENT IN FILM EDITINGBlacKkKlansman The Favourite First Man If Beale Street Could Talk SuspiriaAND THE WINNER ISTHE FAVOURITE - Yorgos Mavropsaridis
ACHIEVEMENT IN VISUAL EFFECTSAnnihilation Avengers: Infinity War First Man Mission Impossible: Fallout A Quiet PlaceAND THE WINNER ISAVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - Dan DeLeeuw, Kelly Port, Russell Earl and Dan Sudick ACHIEVEMENT IN CINEMATOGRAPHYThe Ballad of Buster Scruggs - Bruno Delbonnel Cold War - Łukasz Żal The Rider - Joshua James Richards Roma - Alfonso Cuarón Suspiria - Sayombhu Mukdeeprom AND THE WINNER ISCOLD WAR - Łukasz Żal
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