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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 15, 2019 20:12:21 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 15, 2019 21:23:06 GMT
This is to arrest him next right - ie they get Smollett to identify them - they then tell them what they are facing to get them to flip and turn on Smollett right? I dunno, sometimes I think I've seen too many crime movies
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Post by Jake on Feb 15, 2019 22:37:40 GMT
Yeah, this makes no sense. Two nigerian dudes, one of whom appeared on Empire and one of whom is followed by Jussie on IG, are yelling "MAGA country" and beating him up in that Chicago cold? How is this not a set up?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 16, 2019 0:16:32 GMT
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Post by CookiesNCream on Feb 16, 2019 1:17:08 GMT
1. Who still does ransom notes in 2019?
2. I'm starting to hear more how the whole thing might be a staged hoax. I mean, some recent coverage certainly didn't add up. But I'm not too entirely sure.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 16, 2019 17:41:29 GMT
This is from TMZ, not exactly something I wanna link to, but here's the part of the story that matters.
So take that what you will.
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Post by LaraQ on Feb 16, 2019 18:10:03 GMT
This thing stinks to high heaven.Sounds very much like Jussie lied about what really happened.
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 16, 2019 19:18:55 GMT
This thing stinks to high heaven.Sounds very much like Jussie lied about what really happened. The worst thing is that real victims become less credible because of liars.
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Post by bob-coppola on Feb 16, 2019 19:23:24 GMT
The police denies it was staged, but of course people got caught up with this possibility...
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 16, 2019 19:49:09 GMT
The police denies it was staged, but of course people got caught up with this possibility... CPD said they had no evidence that it was a hoax/staged. Not exactly out of the realm of possibility, though. "Media reports anout the Empire incident being a hoax are unconfirmed by case detectives. Supt Eddie Johnson has contacted @abc7chicago to state on the record that we have no evidence to support their reporting and their supposed CPD sources are uninformed and inaccurate."
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 16, 2019 20:03:32 GMT
People very foolishly believing the cops who will say there's "no evidence it was staged".............right, until he confesses.
Everything about this has been textbook by the cops - they treated him as a victim, the town has been subject to racial tensions, they don't want to f*ck it up in any way. They are not gonna say "there are some indications it was staged" that make themselves look crooked or biased against Smollett.
The arrest of the 2 dudes, then them letting them go, are just them completely circling wagons and a huge sign - this is not a Chicago cops case it's also an FBI case right? I am willing to buy maybe it wasn't "exactly" staged and his lover just punched him in the face - heck I want to punch him and I don't even know him. But basically that would be staged given the story details anyway and that's the best case scenario.
Pathetic story....people will say differently but this story literally emboldens Trump supporters too - fake news that falsely pushes the ugliest side of Trump's rhetoric forward but does it cynically and deceptively but that then makes the accuser appear representative of what they accuse Trump and his administration of being.
It's a liberal, SJW, faux-progressive - and none of those are being used in the positive sense there at all - a Molotov cocktail of the worst kind of idiocy in our US culture now.
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Post by LaraQ on Feb 17, 2019 0:30:09 GMT
The Hollywood Reporter now saying Jussie paid those two men to 'attack' him.Batshit.
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Post by bob-coppola on Feb 17, 2019 1:44:26 GMT
The Hollywood Reporter now saying Jussie paid those two men to 'attack' him.Batshit. Now that’s a credible, institutional source speaking. If truth, it’d be enfuriating. A cruel move.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 17, 2019 1:47:23 GMT
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Post by morton on Feb 17, 2019 2:28:13 GMT
People very foolishly believing the cops who will say there's "no evidence it was staged".............right, until he confesses. Everything about this has been textbook by the cops - they treated him as a victim, the town has been subject to racial tensions, they don't want to f*ck it up in any way. They are not gonna say "there are some indications it was staged" that make themselves look crooked or biased against Smollett. The arrest of the 2 dudes, then them letting them go, are just them completely circling wagons and a huge sign - this is not a Chicago cops case it's also an FBI case right? I am willing to buy maybe it wasn't "exactly" staged and his lover just punched him in the face - heck I want to punch him and I don't even know him. But basically that would be staged given the story details anyway and that's the best case scenario. Pathetic story....people will say differently but this story literally emboldens Trump supporters too - fake news that falsely pushes the ugliest side of Trump's rhetoric forward but does it cynically and deceptively but that then makes the accuser appear representative of what they accuse Trump and his administration of being. It's a liberal, SJW, faux-progressive - and none of those are being used in the positive sense there at all - a Molotov cocktail of the worst kind of idiocy in our US culture now. Yes, I wanted to believe him even up until a few days ago when information came out that the police didn't believe his story. I have to admit though after first hearing about it and being shocked and disgusted by what happened, I did some see some people questioning it because of the temperatures that night in Chicago. I forgot that it was during the polar vortex where it was almost as cold here as it was there, and then I started to doubt it because if my ass didn't go out in that kind of weather for 2 days, I'm not sure why a celebrity would go out to Subway when they could order room service or order from GrubHub or something. Plus, I know there's some pretty crazy people out there, but again I think the extreme cold would put most people off especially doing something with bleach. At first I thought it was like a drug deal gone bad or something like that too, but some kind of lover's quarrel was also a possibility as well as maybe one of his exes stalking him and setting up the whole thing. Now it's just a freaking mess. Trump supporters and other nuts already bring up the false flag theory every time something happens, and now it's just going to be a bazillion times worse.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 17, 2019 12:06:55 GMT
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 17, 2019 12:21:34 GMT
Are you seriously trying to convince us it still happened?
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Post by jakesully on Feb 17, 2019 13:54:38 GMT
the boy who cried wolf . what a disgrace he is. Should face some jail time & pay a hefty fine for wasting the authorities time.
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Post by mrimpossible on Feb 17, 2019 14:23:19 GMT
Absolutely disgraceful. This is gonna hurt his community the most (LGBT) cause now whenever a gay or lesbian person say they’ve been assaulted people are going to use this attention seeking jackass as an example to dismiss them...
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 17, 2019 18:27:49 GMT
Absolutely disgraceful. This is gonna hurt his community the most (LGBT) cause now whenever a gay or lesbian person say they’ve been assaulted people are going to use this attention seeking jackass as an example to dismiss them... I'm starting doubting he's gay. Maybe he faked his coming out to draw attention too.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 17, 2019 18:39:30 GMT
It's cases like this that make the credo "believe all victims/survivors" unrealistic. Human nature needs to be accounted for. People lie for various reasons in every facet of life, and that is why due process remains far more invaluable than social media outrage.
Hard to believe Joe Budden of all people called this before the truth started coming out.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 17, 2019 20:37:25 GMT
Are you seriously trying to convince us it still happened? nope. Not anymore.
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Post by filmnoir on Feb 17, 2019 20:51:58 GMT
Of course he and his lawyer will spin this - to continue to portray him as the innocent victim. But the longer the lie goes on, the worse it will be for him. IMO, something was always off about this so-called "attack".
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 17, 2019 21:02:30 GMT
I'm awaiting the inevitable "I was drunk, I need rehab" celebrity defense.
Also, let's see if Empire's producers stick to their guns and keeps his character in the show.
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Post by mrimpossible on Feb 17, 2019 22:22:35 GMT
Absolutely disgraceful. This is gonna hurt his community the most (LGBT) cause now whenever a gay or lesbian person say they’ve been assaulted people are going to use this attention seeking jackass as an example to dismiss them... I'm starting doubting he's gay. Maybe he faked his coming out to draw attention too. Maybe. I wouldn't put it past him...
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