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Post by urbanpatrician on Jan 23, 2019 11:41:31 GMT
Arms and the Man was originally announced for 2007 or 2008. Canceled. Luck. Canceled because of those poor horses. That Ferrari movie. Is that even going through..?... and filming? Now... my most anticipated Vietnam War series.... what goes there? Coens always get their films released within a reasonable timeframe. What's always going on with Mann? Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 23, 2019 12:07:57 GMT
Luck. Canceled because of those poor horses. It was also cancelled also because it cost too much and the ratings were low - the poor horses gave HBO a good excuse really - although they did commit to a 2nd season of it and it was just getting really good. That show changed television and will never get the credit - the first time a 2 time Oscar winner went to a TV series (and doing his smartest work post-Rain Man for Godsake) - Hoffman set the stage for Oscar winners going to the streaming world (Spacey, Douglas, Penn, Pacino now possibly). I think the problems tend to be in the writing - and some kind of writers block really. His best films were the ones with insanely layered and dense scripts - Heat and The Insider are masterful scripts and he owned both those projects (although he co-wrote The Insider) - those are not just great movies, they are perfectionist examples of exhausting detail on his part. After that, he did all collaborations where he was less involved - except for Miami Vice which could have been tweaked to be tighter written film. I just think he has a disconnect between what he wants to say (and write) and how he wants then wants to say it (and direct it). He's lost a bit of artistic control over his stuff and that gets everything off track, including schedules I guess.
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Post by jimmalone on Jan 23, 2019 12:09:37 GMT
I think he is probably too pedantic.
However: If he ever makes another movie as good as "Heat" I will happily have waited 10 years for it...
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Post by Viced on Jan 23, 2019 15:02:15 GMT
That shithead Christian Bale had to drop out of Ferrari and ruin everything. There were also a ton of rights issues with the book, but apparently Mann has them back now. Who knows if it'll ever happen. I guess he's focusing on his publishing imprint now... the first book (which sounds great) is out next month. He's also in the middle of co-writing the HEAT prequel novel I think. Reaaaaaaaally thought we'd have some news on Hue '68 by now.... not a peep since it went to FX. Dude is 75..... needs to get something going quick.
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 24, 2019 2:18:01 GMT
Some luckless situations and his painstaking research process.
Bale dropped outta Ferrari bc "health concerns" with the weight gain? He signs onto Vice, major weight gain, and then Ford vs Ferrari. Yikeess.
Anyway hope Mann gets something going soon. He'd be a strong pick for the Evel Knievel On Tour project - which could be a great role for Leo now I think. You can just picture Mann behind Evel's ear, revving the engine, can't cha?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 24, 2019 3:59:44 GMT
I'm just waiting for a new Bennett Miller project.
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Post by moonman157 on Jan 24, 2019 5:02:47 GMT
Arms and the Man was originally announced for 2007 or 2008. Canceled. Luck. Canceled because of those poor horses. That Ferrari movie. Is that even going through..?... and filming? Now... my most anticipated Vietnam War series.... what goes there? Coens always get their films released within a reasonable timeframe. What's always going on with Mann? Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm sure studios are happily throwing him $200 million to make experimental arthouse "action" movies that are seen by nobody Blackhat will probably be his final film and that means he's going out with a masterpiece
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 24, 2019 17:04:35 GMT
I think MM is one of the greatest active filmakers. Insider and Heat were masterpieces.
I have watched most of his movies and really hope he is doing another one.
Imdb mentions a "Untitled Tony Accardo/Sam Giancana Biopic" but it's been there for a very long time and I guess it's dead.
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Post by Viced on Feb 11, 2019 3:47:36 GMT
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Post by moonman157 on Feb 11, 2019 15:14:03 GMT
I'm curating a mini-Michael Mann retrospective at my work next month. Finally going to bring Miami Vice back to the people.
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Post by moonman157 on Feb 11, 2019 15:16:56 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 11, 2019 15:28:57 GMT
It's because he puts a lot of Mann hours into each one.
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Post by Viced on Feb 11, 2019 15:52:26 GMT
Imagine Smith and Tommy Cruise in Miami Vice... Foxx was a diva and fucked up the production, Farrell trashed the movie years later... Would have been a huge hit with Smith/Cruise and Mann could be making whatever the hell he wants to right now.
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Post by moonman157 on Feb 11, 2019 15:55:00 GMT
Imagine Smith and Tommy Cruise in Miami Vice... Foxx was a diva and fucked up the production, Farrell trashed the movie years later... Would have been a huge hit with Smith/Cruise and Mann could be making whatever the hell he wants to right now. Probably good for him financially but we would have lost one of the best movies ever made so I refuse to imagine that. It is such a damn tragedy that he may never get to make another movie. Maybe Netflix will save him?
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Post by Viced on Feb 21, 2019 5:50:00 GMT
Just listened to the Mann on some garbage podcast and he said he definitely plans to do Ferrari in 2020 or 2021. Seems like he’s working on the Leroux movie now (the book came out the other day). I guess we’ll see what happens.
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Post by moonman157 on Feb 21, 2019 14:19:25 GMT
Just listened to the Mann on some garbage podcast and he said he definitely plans to do Ferrari in 2020 or 2021. Seems like he’s working on the Leroux movie now (the book came out the other day). I guess we’ll see what happens. what podcast?
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Post by Viced on Feb 21, 2019 14:46:13 GMT
Just listened to the Mann on some garbage podcast and he said he definitely plans to do Ferrari in 2020 or 2021. Seems like he’s working on the Leroux movie now (the book came out the other day). I guess we’ll see what happens. what podcast? The Adam Carolla Show. Reaaaaaaaallllly not worth listening to. Never heard of Carolla but he seems like a totally annoying asshole. Didn't ask Mann anything interesting, and brought up how he thought Brian Cox was a better Hannibal Lecter than Hopkins about 5 times. Also cut Mann off when he started talking about Ferrari.
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Post by Viced on Feb 24, 2019 4:48:12 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 24, 2019 5:01:00 GMT
Holy hell, I would have thought that was Robin Williams had I not looked closer.
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Post by moonman157 on Feb 24, 2019 15:13:43 GMT
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Post by moonman157 on Mar 8, 2019 1:58:05 GMT
Fuckin' hell. First Mann movie played in our retrospective tonight and the theater was about 35% full. Bohemian Rhapsody was playing its 10th week and was 57% full just down the hall from it.
MANN GETS NO RESPECT I TELL YA
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 23, 2019 18:43:53 GMT
I think moonman is right.
Mann has lots of fans if you count Pacino/DeNiro crime and gangster film aficionados, people who lived through the 90s (ME!), and people who spent a great deal of their youth on IMDB.
But if you ask a common film buff, they don't even know who he is much less have any interest in his films.
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Post by moonman157 on Mar 26, 2019 3:18:12 GMT
I think moonman is right. Mann has lots of fans if you count Pacino/DeNiro crime and gangster film aficionados, people who lived through the 90s (ME!), and people who spent a great deal of their youth on IMDB. But if you ask a common film buff, they don't even know who he is much less have any interest in his films. our screening of Heat almost sold out the other night it seems to be the one movie of his that has a wider following of fans, even though it ain't even his best but it is a masterpiece I'm guessing our screening of Miami Vice this week is going to be a disaster
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 26, 2019 3:28:33 GMT
I've always said that one of the biggest missed opportunities in cinema was an ongoing partnership between Mann and Denzel Washington. They would have been a more upscale/upmarket version of Tony Scott and Washington. Still wonder how such an obvious collaboration never happened, particularly since their taste for genre/crime films aligns.
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Post by Good God on Mar 26, 2019 4:09:52 GMT
Maybe because half his movies bomb at the Box Office as he needs $100M to direct a movie you can make for $60M. Probably the most wasteful big director around.
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